Held at Torino, 6-8 February 2002
Wednesday, 6/2/2002 | ||
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Welcome address and introduction: General information about the LM current status, WP activities, COSMO newsletter etc | Guenther Doms, DWD | 13.30-14.00 |
Start of WG3 | ||
Presentation of WG3 | Marco Arpagaus, MeteoSwiss | 14:00-14:15 |
aLMo old vs new PBL parameterisation scheme and vs LM-DWD | Francis Schubiger, MeteoSwiss | 14.15-14.45 |
Discussion | 14.45-15.00 | |
Simplified relations between near surface model variables and tunable parameters of the transfer scheme in the new PBL parameterization scheme. abstract of the talk: Recognising that most of the systematic errors of the near surface variables (T2m, Td2m and V10m) for clear sky conditions are related to specifications of the transfer scheme (describing the transport of quantities between the rigid surface of the earth and the lowest model layer), it is important to know the special relationships between those variables and uncertain formulations, definitions and parameter values of that scheme in order to deduce how to change specification there. Important aspects are, besides others:
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Matthias Raschendorfer, DWD | 15:00-17.00 |
Coffee break | 17.00-17.30 | |
Open discussion about:
Marco Arpagaus/Mathias Raschendorfer introduce the problem coming from WG3 experience WG3 viewpoint (M. Arpagaus):Matthias Raschendorfer focused the representation of SYNOP stations by considering the definition of near surface parameters (e.g. 10m wind) within the model and the WMO rules for the measurement of near surface parameters and will then discuss how well these two "values" can possibly match (e.g. for mountainous regions). It may be worthwhile to then discuss possibilities to select representative stations by e.g., considering the environment of a station (spatial variability within the model grid box), comparing super-observations with larger model domains, using objective algorithms which select representative stations as a function of parameter, meteorological situation and "representativity- radius" (e.g. 7km at the moment), etc. WG5 viewpoint (U. Damrath/F. Schubiger)One should be careful concerning the choice of point for surface parameter verification. Stations for verification should be representative at least for the scale of the model. Therefore stations in deep values and on the peaks of the mountains are only suitable to declare that LM forecasts are not useful for such points. On the other hand any user may be interested in LM forecasts over complex terrain. In this case one has two opportunities:
Problems: |
17.30-18.30 | |
End Of The First Day | 18.30 | |
Thursday, 7/2/2002 | ||
Verification with "feedback" on the physics parameterizations in the case of the transfer scheme in the new PBL parameterization scheme. abstract Apart from documenting the model quality, the verification should have a "feedback" on the model design. Therefore methods have to be developed to minimize model uncertainties. Of course, a kind of conditional verification, where dependencies of model errors on special situations (cloudiness, external parameter values, etc.) can be demonstrated would be a good start. If the model errors can be restricted mainly to wrong values of uncertain model parameters, the desired "feedback" could be achieved by determining the optimal values of those parameters. This can be done e.g. with a variational approach or analytically by the help of simplified model relations. Both possibilities will be explained using the example of two parameters (one of the transfer scheme and one of the soil model) to be tuned with or without a running soil moisture analysis (SMA). |
Matthias Raschendorfer, DWD | 08:30-10:00 |
Discussion | 10.00-10.30 | |
Provision of SYNOP-derived soil parameters: "First results with the LSPM model" | Massimo Milelli, Regione Piemonte | 10.30-11.00 |
Coffee break | 11:00-11:30 | |
Start of WG5 | ||
Presentation of WG5, WG5 recommendations proposed and discussed in Athens | Carlo Cacciamani, ARPA-SMR | 11.30-11.45 |
Theme 1: Statistical significance of the verification "scores" | ||
Verification indices and assessment of statistical significance abstract Some indices widely used for the verification of deterministic (threat score, bias, false alarm rate) and probabilistic forecast systems (ROC area, Brier Skill Score, Cost-loss Analysis) are presented. The problem of the statistical significance of a difference in the scores obtained by two different forecast is also discussed and are presented some methodologies of hypothesis testing (e.g. resampling technique). |
Chiara Marsigli, ARPA-SMR | 11.45-12.10 |
Application of a Statistical Methodology for Limited Area Model Intercomparison using a Bootstrap Technique abstract Within the European project "INTERREG II C" it has been applied a numerically based statistical method designed to discriminate significative differences between precipitation skill scores associated to different model forecasts. A Bootstrap resampling technique is used as hypothesis test. Three different operational Limited Area Models (LAMs) are evaluated over the Piedmont and Liguria Regions from 1st October 2000 to 31st May 2001 as a test of the statistical method. |
Marco Casaioli, CNR-ISAC sezione di Roma | 12.10-12.30 |
Discussion | 12.30-13.00 | |
Lunch Break | 13.00-14.00 | |
Short presentations of last "standard" verification results in the COSMO countries (10 min. each):
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14.00-14.30 | |
Theme 2: High resolution verification of precipitation and investigation of the "realism" of the LM forecast | ||
Progresses on the precipitation verification process in Piedmont and Northern Italy (PowerPoint presentation, 0,3Mb) abstract The results of two years of precipitation verification over the Piedmont basins will be presented, including some climatological aspects and, moreover, some result obtained with the data shared among other italian regions. |
Elena Oberto, Regione Piemonte | 14.30-15.00 |
New results of radar verification abstract The talk will present results about verification of precipitation using radar data that use "pattern recognition" technique in order to investigate the realism of the LM simulation of precipitation pattern. |
Andrea Rossa and Emanuele Zala, MeteoSwiss (Talk done by F. Schubiger) |
15.00-15.30 |
New experiences in verification of precipitation using our high density network. | Ulrich Damrath, DWD: | 15.30-16.00 |
Coffee break | 16.30-17.00 | |
Impact of different up-scaling procedures of observed and LM simulated fields on verification scores for QPF. | Massimo Ferri, UGM | 16.00-16.30 |
Discussion
The problem:
Need to investigate more clever methods to study the realism of the LM forecast! |
17.00-18.00 | |
End Of The Second Day | 18.00 | |
Friday 8/2/2002 | ||
Theme 3: Exchange of data between COSMO partners | ||
Discussion with chairman: Carlo Cacciamani (ARPA-SMR)Actions and efforts must be done to start an exchange of non-GTS and radar data among the COSMO partners. The goal is to constitute a data base of these type of data to allow a sound verification of LM; first priority: daily values of accumulated precipitation (from 6 to 6 GMT if possible). Second priority: radar data. 1 2d parameter (precipitation or reflectivity) |
8.30-9.30 | |
Theme 4: LM verification at ECMWF | ||
Discussion with chairman: Ulrich Damrath (DWD)
Proposal of Periods for the "test" cases at ECMWF: |
9.30-10.00 | |
Discussion with chairman: Massimo Capaldo (UGM): Setup of a common verification package at ECMWF
We need to propose a person (called "NN3" hereafter) inside our WG5. A "solid" software
must be installed at ECMWF.
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10.00-11.00 | |
Coffee Break | 11.00-11.30 | |
Discussion with chairman: Carlo Cacciamani & Marco ArpagausGeneral discussion about WG3 and WG5 activities. Production of a short report with some recommendations which have been came out during the meeting |
11.30-12.30 |